TWO PRIESTS ON THE PATIO

This Podcast explores areas in which the sacred meets the scientific, and soul-deep questions find space to breathe. The Reverend Canon Sue-Ann Ward and The Venerable Jeff Ward are Anglican priests and partners in life.  In conversation with Che Merville, the “Two Priests” explore questions that matter – about purpose, belonging, and the wonder of being alive. This podcast invites you into honest, heartfelt conversations at the intersection of spirituality and science. Whether you’re a seeker, a skeptic, or simply spiritually curious, there’s room for you here. Come as you are. Each conversation explores how awakening plays out in real life: through trauma, love, leadership, ministry, service, and doubt. Listeners will experience intimate, vulnerable storytelling and practical guidance for awakening their own spiritual capacity.

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WHEN FAITH COSTS YOU EVERYTHING

What happens when following your calling means losing your community? In this raw and revealing conversation, married Anglican priests Sue Ann Ward and Jeff Ward open up about the price they paid for answering God’s call, leaving the Roman Catholic Church, facing friends who thought they were going to hell, and coming home to “prayer gifts” urging them to “snap out of it.” Twenty-five years later, they’re still unpacking what it means to choose faith over belonging, and why so many Christians have traded Jesus’ actual teachings for something far more dangerous.

THE ORIGINS OF TWO PRIESTS ON THE PATIO

Whether you’re in the wilderness or on the path back to yourself, you are not alone. In this episode of Two Priests on the Patio, host Che Marville continues the journey with Reverend Canon Sue Ann Ward and the Venerable Jeff Ward to explore how this podcast came to be and the origins of “Two Priest on the Patio,” drawing on inspiration from Dr. Lisa Miller’s groundbreaking work “The Awakened Brain” and John Fugelsang’s book “Separation of Church and Hate.”

AWAKENED ATTENTION: LISTENING FOR GOD BEYOND THE NOISE

In this soul-stirring episode, The Reverend Canon Sue Anne Ward and the Venerable Jeff Ward have a robust conversation inspired by Chapter 14 of Lisa Miller’s The Awakened Brain. Together, they explore the sacred practice of awakened attention and the art of listening for the divine voice within us amid the chaos of modern life. From the story of Walter and his spiritual awakening through the guidance of Howard Thurman, to reflections on synchronicity, setbacks, mental health, and the healing power of nature, this episode offers both comfort and clarity.

SIDES OF THE SPECTRUM, by Aiden Lee
What is this podcast all about? SOS is all about talking to people who do lots of different things. Some people are artists. Some are teachers. Athletes, Musicians. Designers. The goal is to inspire people of all abilities. To explore people and topics of interest. I think people are amazing. My focus is to demonstrate how unique we each are. To talk about everything and with everyone is this great big neurodiverse world we live in.
Aiden is part of The Super Ability Crew that meets at The Church of the Incarnation, and a talented artist. Find out more here.